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[电竞新闻] 梦泪谈S15打野干货：李白和韩信孰强孰弱？打野不要出打野刀！（转载）
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梦泪谈S15打野干货：李白和韩信孰强孰弱？打野不要出打野刀！

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经常玩《王者荣耀》的玩家都有这样的体会，你会发现在游戏中会碰到很多关于“梦之泪伤”的ID，值得一提的是，这些ID的玩家都喜欢打野，当你们说为什么你叫这个ID的时候，他会告诉你对打野玩家来说“梦泪是信仰！”


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对于梦泪打野，相信网友们都知道点故事，因为当时梦泪在KPL赛场上也是顶尖打野选手的存在，他的韩信曾强迫《王者荣耀》官方加强了水晶的防御机制；而他的李白对当时的AG超玩会来说是“非BAN必选”的英雄，所以说梦泪打野确实很强，那么梦老师打野有没有什么诀窍呢？

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就在4月23直播的时候，梦泪直播玩李白，被弹幕询问为什么老是先出完整的鞋子，最后再出打野刀呢？对于这个问题，网友们的意思是提前拥有打野刀，你会得到一个寒冰惩击的减速效果和真实伤害，很利于打野Gank，而鞋子没有主动技能，看起来很不划算。（其实联盟君也是先出打野刀的，所以对于这个问题很好奇）

当时梦老师是这样说的“大部分打野英雄或者线上英雄，都是以鞋子为主的，没有一位选手第一件装备想出其他的（特殊英雄除外），因为鞋子是前期性价比最高的装备（经常看KPL比赛的网友会发现，很多选手前期都出两个鞋子，甚至出三个），当然了，辅助第一件要出辅助水晶的，最主要的是，鞋子前期能将你的收益最大化！”


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对于梦老师的语言，联盟君简单的给大家解释一下，鞋子成形较快（过渡期短）；而且鞋子可以给你提供了较高移速，移速不仅在前中后期都是十分关键的（走位，支援或者逃跑移速都是基础）！而打野刀在当前版本收益并不是那么大，最开始出一个小打野刀就行，后期在补中的就可以。

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知道了出装后，网友们发现本局游戏梦泪对战的是韩信，所以问梦泪韩信和李白谁更厉害？
梦泪想了一下。表示“这两个英雄没有Counter这种关系，我用韩信能打过李白，我用李白也可以打过韩信，所以我也不知道谁厉害，都差不多吧！”（这是韩信和李白的顶尖使用者，他的话值得相信哦）

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好啦！以上便是小编于本赛季打野装备和英雄的讨论，那么你们是先出鞋子还是打野刀呢？你们认为李白和韩信孰强孰弱呢？
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我这都是看都看不懂的啊

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这样的游戏也是小年轻的天下

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这家伙头看起来怎么这么大个的，天赋异禀么

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主题回复处广告图案-天策传媒
电竞玩家怎么那么瘦弱的

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游戏方面的，学习一下了

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打野不出打野刀是干嘛的

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电竞的东西我是不太懂的了。

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李白和韩信我都不认识，是不是小白脸

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我去，这些了是人才呀，有实力就是不一样的

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对这些术语真的是不太懂的咯

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帖子的资讯只能够看看了

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王者荣耀我还没有玩过啊。

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我李白玩的很溜，韩信就不怎么样了

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到底谁厉害也是要看最后怎么样

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10个韩信9个坑，我觉得还是好坑啊

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王者荣耀，这几天更新了

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